Attacking or harassing an Atheist should be considered a hate crime. I mean, it's a belief system, basic human rights to be free of religion if you choose or simply take your sweet time if you choose to choose one. Religions are like salesmen, especially used car salesmen that don't let you have a word in edgewise, try to sell you a load of crap and tell you it works great and don't let up. They're hustlers or con artists. How can they act offended etc that you don't believe in the "word of god" or deny god etc when I don't see the guy down here stomping around like Godzilla or going around saying, hey, I'm here, break out the booze you're gonna be saved! Besides, in school, at least in college, certain teachers were better than others and I found that by switching I could learn better. What I've seen in religion is a bunch of unqualified teachers, or the blind trying to blind and then lead the blind. It's the only officially recognized organization, other than past psychology, where the least qualified were often the most sought after teachers. Hence, it's the opiate of the masses perhaps because you either have to be stoned to believe it or once you get drawn into it (or badgered, kidnapped etc) then you end up in a drugged-like state incapable of thinking for yourself. I mean, really, science and religion are separate but wouldn't that simply mean separate classes? What are they afraid of if they have true faith in their god? It's not like the scientists can build robots to go after god or their chosen right? Oh and faith is odd, believing in something you know nothing about and has gotten plenty of people killed (either in wars or by being duped like the Jim Jones people, Branch Davidians), or simply ruins lives or causes others to ruin other's lives. It's an excuse for jealous people to be able to bring others of higher intelligence down, quite simply. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers. Granted it's not just the clergy but a large part of it is. The problem with religion, even though it's been recorded by not just secular historians that the bible has been changed, religion has been corrupted in the past etc, there's no "margin for error" and they're brutal if you don't know the answer right away (and quite good at it and taking things out of context on purpose). The problem with this is the bible is completely incorrect, out of order and has been revised by not just non-theologens but to purposefully make it wrong. Even if there were some truth it's pretty much gone, though I have to agree with the Jesus part that says "Love one another as theyself and as you love me and God. There's no other law after this, and old testament is history, null and void." It's also an excuse to lump together creepy people with normal people, and it poses a risk for children especially but adults as well. Something so close to family or the very basic function of our society should be closely monitored by the Feds as in cameras, microphones etc. I mean, really, LDS churches in North Ogden teach with paired teachers with the doors open if I'm told correctly and if not, that'd be ideal considering the number of child abuse that happens within that church alone. I hear nuns abuse quite a bit and not just physically, and it goes for baptists as well. There are so many christian sects how can you get any true info? It's like having 1600 different manuals with noticeably different instructions for arming a space shuttle and expecting anything other than a disaster. And religion persecutes non-believers but as soon as you defend yourself with reason especially, you're stomped down rather hard and accused of persecuting religion. It's literally saying it'll illegal to accuse and inform/correct the abuser. Basically, that'd set a precedent in court for a lawyer smart enough to basically say that police have no authority over me on the same principle, or even religious freedom. Let's hope that man boy love association doesn't try that and it will cause a stir to say the least. I mention that because I once noted something good the ACLU did and my brother pointed out they also defended that organization. I think I may have replied well, sounds like religion or the catholics. And that's another thing, mormon abuse is not that well known due to NDAs if I was told correctly or non-disclosure aggreements after they got their money. WTF? It doesn't make the news hardly ever especially in Utah, and not in the numbers appropriate. Instead I see in the news how many naughty things the Hispanics or Blacks or trashy druggies have done and then the nice things the religion does and it reminds me of 1984. I have been to San Fran too, gays are even different there but here, some are not. It's really weird and it may just be me but I haven't been there in a while. Nobody bothered me about any marriage or other issues when I was there and that was before gay marriage was even legalized at first. However, I do believe in the 80s some marriage stuff happened there now that I recall. Hell, I've even seen the video about the militant gays saying they'd sodomize kids in bathrooms, schools, churches etc to make a gay america. Still, in San Fran all you see is just regular people other than the silver covered guy doing the robot (no crime but different and cool) and maybe some gays kissing or holding hands once in a while but truthfully I hardly ever saw that there. I mainly saw tourism, China Town, Fisherman's Wharf and the best damn sea food I ever tasted. People have an impression that gays are flocking the streets with panties and braziers and trying to infect straight people. I've only had bad experiences here and I wonder why (since LDS and others are the dominant religion and yes LDS have many allies including some baptists, almost all catholics etc and they're trying to add Muslims to that as well. Hmmm I read a bit of the Quran, it's like a Loui Lamore Cowboy novel, every other page has violence related material. In the cowboy novels someone got shot on every other page. I read maybe 20-30 pages on the iPod Touch free App and every other them seemed to be "the infidel shall perish, you'll suffer greatly if you don't bow to God, the Jew shall perish, the day of war will come." Ok, so umm I know the people are pretty peaceful a lot of the time and it's more direct than the bible which basically says the same thing but as they say, beats around the bush (at least the followers do.) I also hate the religious people see defiance as a challenge or a threat when it is merely living or trying to escape or even defend yourself. It literally is like someone being robbed, raped or mugged being "defiant" and then being accused of stepping out of line. I get people doing what seems to be the "take a chill pill" action and it's lame. Really. People must be retarded around here and figure, hey, if you're smart enough to figure that out I'll mess you up down to my level or lower, and it will obviously be for different reasons. And people here are idiots and jerks and need things spelled out when it boils down to basic human rights, especially the right to say no. I can say no to anything at any time and I don't have to be accurate in that statement every single time. It's a big pain and something they try to get you into the habit of believing and then when you blurt something out in that context they say, oh hey, you are making out like I have to be completely specific/accurate every time. Obviously there's something wrong with YOU and you're violating MY rights, freedom and safety blah blah or make you out like a bad or creepy person. They're cons and assholes basically. That's basically it, looking for a safe place to stay other than the missions I am at now and not willing to associate with mormons, especially after attempting to report them at mormonabuse.com. I'm finding the catholics, especially hispanics are pretty bad. They're like army ants when it comes to that religious crap and are quite mean about it. No, they don't go door to door like the mormons but the catholics go to poor countries and have catholic schools where they create monsters via abuse. Same results, different methods. http://beforeitsnews.com/news/30/380/Not_Just_the_Catholic_Church_..._Mormon_Church_and_Other_Religious_Institutions_Have_Also_Covered_Up_For_Pedophiles.html Mormons are especially bad at this and these churches are a system of hiding pedophelia and also adult abuse. Mormon divorces are a result of either abuse or cheating (men going to strippers or prostitutes or other younger women etc) so adults get abused as well, and often it involves money too since in Utah you see billboards and commercials saying that bankruptcy is a better option than debt consolidation. You won't see as much of that or none of that almost with higher up authorities in church from bishop to stake prez to general authorities as "examples of what to do to succeed to be safe and happy in life and afterwards." I imagine the ones that end up in those situations were a little "rebellious" and actually tried to enjoy this life and that includes boating, jet skiing, snow mobiles etc or even education (which costs a lot and to get a Pell you have to be poor enough and student loans are no fun to pay back). So just depend on good ole religion to be your welfare office and your education while the yay-whos up top prey on you or your kids and get what they can (jollies included) until you die or they send ya to the nuthouse over your torment (a tortured soul basically.) Oh and the old fart thing where they try to bring a guy down for his gal (or to make themselves feel better by making him think that in modern times at least) is creepy. They say Brigham Young and others killed the youngins of 18-19 or younger (the male that is) when they wanted a gal cuz, well, mormons have horns (they're horny and toot their own horns.) I guess that's why they try to say I'm gay etc cuz I prize an education over rushing into marriage or sleeping with gals or dating right and left (especially when in college and lately just to harass me and it's a basic christian thing too. The old "go forth and make babies cuz god said so" in Genesis. Ok it says be fruitful and multiply. Well, be fruitful means your punk ass has a job first and then you make kids. This is basically creeps (ignorant and pervy people) doing a DOS on me to keep me from finding work. It ranges in different reasons from religious beliefs, beliefs that my race is bad (Mexican or White/European), hatred that I was born mormon but had no choice (they don't care), my political belief (Democratic or merely American), or even make issue that I'd like to live in Mexico who last I checked is an ally (hence the aid in military strategists and perhaps equipment to fight Cartels), old geezers that like to pick on a younger guy for knowing more, and basically anyone uneducated that's bitter about it. You see, I don't know everything nor expect that I will but when I know something and write about it (can we say stalkers?) or if I mention to a friend and someone overhears or if I defend myself with words rather than my fists, it's rather inconvenient and it's hard to get someone arrested or put away for being intelligent but I they work really hard at that in religion and not just missions etc. I'm not saying I don't appreciate the ones that are kind, house me, or feed me but some have flipped out for some reason, and I'll have a book in hand and I'll cover it up (unweaving the rainbow by Richard Dawkins) and some also singled me out as if "hey I know that atheist" and some that go are obviously mormon. I went to church well into my 30s I know a mormon when I see one usually, especially the mainstream ones and even some of the "I wanna prove I'm not mormon and cool by being a skater/street kid." Yeah, gimme a break. Some even go lezzie/gay as if it were trendy. That's kind of odd. However I don't appreciate when I get pretty bad food poisoning in missions (and especially if I'm the only one or one of the very few and the others are friends). People read into that like I should instantly know "it's an allergy" or "I have a bug" when people have ridden my ass non-stop (hence lack of sleep/rest and that includes when I'm awake. I'm used to my quiet, relaxation and meditation time. One reason I liked to mountain bike, hike etc let alone sit on a computer, alone with headphones listening to classical or bluemars.org or something. Continual overload of emotions, auditory, visual, extremes of temperatures etc and I can also sometimes feel when someone watches me or at least it feels that way (perhaps I'm inaccurate it could simply be my body notices other people notice others or something) and when people come stomping behind me or making odd gestures like they're gonna stab or poke me (after some almost attacks at missions including a knife being pulled on me) that shit isn't funny. That guy's knife was long enough to reach me liver through the front of me back in Portland. It was about 7 or 8 or 9 inches long, definitely not a legal knife in Utah. Oh yeah, I get jerks telling me if I don't take my Richard Dawkins book with me everywhere or even rip it up I'll be "forgiven" which is essentially forgiveness for an education. Next they'll be telling people "forget what you learned in college etc and be ignorant and innocent once again." Didn't the catholics try that already? They would read the bible in Latin mostly (or it was written in Latin, the elite language) and none of the congregation had a copy of the bible, nor would it matter since even most Spaniards couldn't read Latin let alone Italians. So, despite the fact Mormons have a "complete set of scriptures" it's 3 fake ones and one that's very questionable if not completely fake (most likely completely fake, King James had it rewritten by hundreds of writers including shakespear) so I'd assume it's a work of fiction. Why hire a Fiction/Drama/Comedy/Tragedy writer among others to rewrite something that was already organized, perhaps truthful etc? It's either a complete and different rewrite or it was rearranged to almost make sense (or just enough sense to trap you into doing creepy or stupid things) and also trap you into being somewhat good, but a slave/subjugate etc or even be "one of the team" and do unto others before it's done to you. I don't say it to be mean, I do want to help people and it's an odd nurturing thing PLUS it's not selfess but selfish, if others are safe then so am I. The human race, let alone Americans and community are literally a flock (birds of a feather flock together) and we all bleed red, we all eat similar food, we can marry etc or get sick off the same things, learn basically the same. A lot of innate and learned things that are natural are used by religion against us. I do believe religion did breed some faith into us (perhaps bred it or twisted it wrong) but perhaps some of it is natural or labeled wrong. Some things you do get used to or take on faith. The sun will rise, rain will always be wet. Just natural. Oh yeah, but the natural man/woman is the enemy of God right? That's what religion wants you to think at the same time they say "oh it's ok you're created in God's image." So God's his own enemy? Hmmm how odd. That and so many other conflicts make people schizo but the thing is, schizo is a point of view. If 20 crazy people are in a room, are more powerful than 1 sane person, then, by vote alone (or perception) who is really crazy if the 20 insist they're not the crazy ones but the 1 sane person. I think that's why a humanism magazine pointed out that Jesus was against organized religion, he saw the dangers not because of God but because man or woman don't always listen and even with good intentions can mess things up. Granted a lot of bad things happen in religion or otherwise by mere accident and it's no crime to be mistaken about it though it can have consequences either way. I also write this because religion is also a psych job that knows how to make you feel guilty about things that aren't your fault. Someone walks by and she's pretty and you notice, oh you are lusting you've got to repent when biology taught me you have hardly any control over that in a healthy state and I mean merely your body's reaction as in heart rate, perhaps thinking, wow what a hottie, phermones being released or something. It's not like you're going to just jump on a person if even in a religious state many people don't. However, guilt/shame are an unhealthy state and basically akin to depression and used by religion to disable people from thinking properly. Sort of like an electric eel about to feed on it's prey or a stun gun for a sin you didn't commit like Adam's fall. Ok, so we're being punished for God's first and favorite but he wanted him to eat the Apple in the first place or else his plan would fail? Oh, but right now I'm not punished for a mormon Prophet failing or Pope nor am I rewarded and instantly (without having to do anything since I did nothing in the Garden of Eden) be just fine cuz Jesus died for my sins. It's like selling an air conditioner to Inuit as my father would say back to me. I remember being rather astute and he did not like that one tiny bit. Guess that's why he's got full mormon privileges now and it's shocking, odd and creepy. Anyhow, 6 minutes left on my time at the library, will find food and then go job hunting etc. Oh yeah and creeps especially hispanics but also others force me to say I'm a perv having done a perverted act (and I've got a bit of brain damage and not just a TBI so it's witness tampering before any trial or without one. Am not able to verbally defend and having trouble speaking clearly thanks to these shits.)and it's something I was going to report the mormons for and not something I had done. ) and hence why I'm paying penance and this is my job to "right what I did wrong" as if I were joe smith or god or something. What a bunch of nuts. This was around long before I was born or ole Joe Smith and really a form of harassment which is also bad for your health (continued stress and and slow attempted murder basically).